Ultimate Movie Madness 2.0

[Shido]

There already was one.

[Agrajag]

Bernie Mac in "Fullmetal Alchemist".

Yes!

Robin Williams in Cowboy Bebop
Guy who played young Anakin in Phantom Menace as Naruto
Eddie Murphy in One Piece

[Bronze]

Live Action DBZ has to be the greatest idea for a film ever.

I for one can't wait to see how exciting the five minutes of action will be. I bet the protagonists hair will turn yellow! I sure hope they properly explain their motivation for fighting for two hours beforehand, though, otherwise they won't be seeing any of my money!

Also, Rupert Grint as Ichigo.

[pie]

The movie will end with a spirit bomb. 5 cookies.

[Ben]

"Please be written by an american please be written by an american please be written by an american"

[Shido]

Note: Comic Book movies are not good movies. Just because you enjoyed it, doesn't make it a good movie.

If a movie is a form of entertianment, then shouldn't its worth be judged on how much it was enjoyed?

Not every move strives to be high art so its really unfair to judge all movies by that standard.

Also Road to Perdition, A History of Violence and Ghost World are all pretty good movies on there own without even having any knowledge of there Comic Book Herritidge.

Right, but you have to look at every aspect of a movie: Writing, cinematography, screenplay, acting, sets, props, the whole 9. You can't reasonably argue that a movie that steals its idea from another movie (or another source), and tries to screenplay based off a comic-book, replaces actors with CG characters, can actually be good movies. There are certain traits that deem movies as "good."

Originality, overall quality, writing, outstanding cinematography, and exceptional acting are among the traits that define movies as "good".

Comic-book movies violate these. The writing isn't good, the acting isn't good, they're aren't original (real-life adaptation of a comic-book universe), and there's an enormous overabundance of CG.

Just because there are cheap jokes, big explosions and attractive actors, and you like the source material, does not mean the movie is good.

[Matador]

Well, most of those qualities apply to the comics they're based on.

Just so I can nit pick, all those qualities apply to Super Hero Movies.

...and 300.

Additionally, The qualifiers that you give as examples seem to relate to the movie on an artistic level rather than if it was "Good" or not.

Good is too vague, since it can rate the entertainment value, the information you received [documentary], How it made you feel/think.

Add in art style, story telling, and acting, and then you've got the quantifiers for Art.

[Shido]

It was an example not a precise definition.

Quality v. Suck.

[Jim North]

I'll admit it.

I liked Tank Girl.

[Ben]

Comic-book movies violate these. The writing isn't good, the acting isn't good, they're aren't original (real-life adaptation of a comic-book universe), and there's an enormous overabundance of CG.

No thats superhero movies, see my examples of good comic book movies, Road to Predition, A History of Violence, Ghost World. These movies don't use CG (I think there might be a tiny bit in A History of Violence but none in Ghost World and as far as I can tlel none in Road to Predition) They're well written well acted (Including actors like Steve Beucemi and Tom Hanks) and are good movies on there own. You could also add From Hell into this list but I haven't seen it so I can't comment on its quality. V for Vendetta again, usese little CG, great actors (Hugo Weaving, Natalie Portman etc) and is well written and well paced.

Road to Predition is a 30's gangster era movie dealing with a hitman for the mob and how his son sees him.

A history of Violence is a movie I don't want to spoil but is really good.

Ghost World is a movie about two girls that leave highschool and them coping in the real world, it also has Steve Beucimi in wich should be enough to convince you to see it.

You're arguments would have more sucess if you leveld them at superhero movies instead of Comic Book movies cause there's a huge diffrence. And even then they're pretty general arguments that could be used against any summer blockbuster movie.

[EDIT]

Also, FUCK YEAH TANK GIRL!

Laurie Pettie for the fucking win!

[Shido]

I can't speak for the Comic-Book movies that I haven't seen. A History of Violence, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta. But From Hell does fit into this category, it was bad. So was Sin City (don't spam me with Sin City was a good movie and I am insulted BS, because it wasn't). So maybe if I see A History of Violence or Road to Perdition my view will change, but I know it won't in V.

See, Comic-Book movies fall into the same category of loathing as remakes and sequels for me. I don't like the on principle, and very few movies in said genres can get past the loathing and earn my respect as a good, or at least decent film.

Bottom line: There is a certain quality that is very absent in today's media. Specifically movies.

[iamnotachicken]

V for Vendetta was good.

[Ben]

(don't spam me with Sin City was a good movie and I am insulted BS, because it wasn't).

Sin City was shit, Frank Miller can't right worth a damm. Thats why it wasn't on my list, its also full of completly needless CG (Yeah we get it, you can do all your backgrounds entirley CG, that doesn't mean you should {See also, Sky Captain and the World of Tomrow})

V for Vendetta is debatable as a quality movie, its debatable as a quality comic book movie considering it differs so much from the comic (And the comics writer has openly hated on it) but it did have good actors, wasn't filled with 'pretty people' or holywood cliche's and used almost no CG.

Seriously go hunt down one of the three movies I mentioned, my personal fave was Ghost World but the others are all solid movies too.

Saying "All comic book movies are bad" is ignorant, esspecialy when all your experience comes from Superhero movies wich are the most likley to turn into summer blockbusters with no depth (Spiderman, X-men, etc) or just suck on every conceivable level (Ghost Rider, Superman Returns)


Again though, I think a movie should be judged on what it sets out to acheive. A movie like Tank Girl can't be held up to the same standards as Citizen Kane, its unfair. If all the movie sets out to acheive is to be an enjoyable way to spend an hour and a half, and it suceeds, then regardless of how great the cinematography, or how over abundent the CG, or how flat the actors are it should be counted as a good movie. It's like saying Sam and Fuzzy is no Watchmen, so its a crap comic. They are setting out to do two completly diffrent things. It's unfair to judge them by the same standards.

[Neuvost]

EDIT: Grah, somehow I didn't see hours worth of posts, thus mine made no sense.

[Jim North]

V for Vendetta was good.

I also enjoy V for Vendetta very much.

But then, I'm filthy Anarchist scum.