Ultimate Anime Madness

[pie]

*swoon*

[stock]

HEY SO THERE WAS THIS THING CALLED BILL 156 AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT AND WAS CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS WERE UP ON IT.

[Desov2]

So uh, Can't wait for episode 13 of Panty and Stocking. Season Finale shall be EPIC.

Oh, and I'll be getting the soundtrack, the music is good, despite the gratuitous amounts of orgasm samples. But then it wouldn't be Panty and Stocking then would it.

[Tekkactus]

I just find it hilarious that of the two, Panty is the virgin.

[Desov2]

lol yeah, it is quite ironic. Though if you think about it, it was kind of coming, despite the fact that one shouldn't have seen it coming because it usually is impossible, I feel like I should have seen it coming.

[TealKick]

HEY SO THERE WAS THIS THING CALLED BILL 156 AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT AND WAS CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS WERE UP ON IT.

Yeah, quite a fuss is being raised about that. And how like 10 major anime entities are staying out of the 2010 Anime Fair in protest.

[ninja-pie]

HEY SO THERE WAS THIS THING CALLED BILL 156 AND I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT AND WAS CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS WERE UP ON IT.

Yeah, quite a fuss is being raised about that. And how like 10 major anime entities are staying out of the 2010 Anime Fair in protest.

For those not in the know, what is it?

[Ben]

Law banning hentai as far as I can tell.

[Tekkactus]

It puts much heavier censorship on anime and manga sold to minors. Not sure of the details.

[eitlobsaboo]

I heard something about it being banned from being sold at train stations and corner stores or something.. and what Tekk said about it getting out of the hands of minors.

[TealKick]

I hope you don't mind me linking to sankaku complex since it may be NWFS but:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/1 ... an-passes/

[Desov2]

Well, after reading about this, this can go two ways basically.

1. It works as it was intended too and helps make sure minors do not get their hands on stuff like raplay (which was probably a major factor in all of this in the first place).

2. Thought police...


I am personally gonna go with 2. And one of those comments was actually kind of freaky because they said how the law only points to anime and manga and not to other things like real porn and other types of media. It is kind of freaky.

[Tekkactus]

Sankaku Complex

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Ben]

Posting the text of Tealkicks link so I don't need to sit on that site while at work

Spoiler: show

Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.

The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.

Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.

It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.

Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.

The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”

The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.

As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.

The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.

There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.

The law is expected to be signed into law on the 15th after an additional vote and then come into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.

from what I can tell it's uh... basically legislation on regulating porn?

I don't know it seems the same as that whole deal in America about banning mature games from being sold to kids. As long as they're not stopping adults from buying what they want isn't that a good thing?

[Desov2]

Well apparently the wording is really vague so its been speculated that they might try and send echi-er manga and anime to the adult corner of stores, which would be catastrophic to sales and could potentially end a series. Apparently, late-night anime would also be at risk which would include things like Panty and Stocking. Because of this, this would lead to heavier censorship and creativeness gone forever and the downfall of the anime and manga industry and then the collapse of the Japanese economy...

Honestly, after typing that, I realized that was a snowball argument and people are just overreacting as the odds of that actually happening are probably pretty limited. The act also doesn't even supposedly start till July of 2011 and it hasn't even been passed yet. While people should be cautious about this, I think everyone is just exaggerating this a bit too much.