Ultimate Doctor Who Madness

[pie]

Get out.

[Watsonreo]

Doctor Who has been the largest thing in my life , & it's entirely because I was one time terrified stiff of it - but I loved it, says Mark. It didn't traumatise me, & a healthy scare is as important as a lovely laugh. It's the exact same emotion, I think. Steven Moffat said to me, Make a Barret home terrifying like you did in Crooked House, but Crooked House was on at0 o clock at night, this is on at six. You require to find that balance.

[frazzledog]

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There's a new poster, and a VERY old friend might be coming back

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(that is NOT a Silent, Silents don't have eyes. Preeeeeeeeety sure it might be Bo. As in, the face of. As in JACK MIGHT BE BACK TOO ASDFGHJKJHGF45RFVBNGFCXD)

[Joopac_Badur]

Er ... um ... a little late on this, but the Silents do have eyes, so that face in the background could be a Silent. Although, Moffat has said that he wanted to have a cameo with Capt. Jack in the mid-Series finale, but he was too occupied with Torchwood: Miracle Day, so Capt. Jack could still make an appearance in the latter half of Series 6. Also, apparently the Doctor has a long trench coat again (based on a clip released from "Let's Kill Hitler"). Not sure if want.

[Agrajag]

God damn do I hate River Song.

[Joopac_Badur]

I still like River, but I hate how all of those adventures and happy times she's supposed to have with the Doctor are more or less limited to Alex Kingston's run as her. Why bother making her a Time Lady with the ability to regenerate when you are only going to use one actress?

Also, why bother calling the episode "Let's Kill Hitler" when you only have the Nazis around for maybe ten minutes? False advertising!

[Agrajag]

I actually thought it was kinda funny that they just leave Hitler locked in the closet and ignore him for the rest of the episode. Also Rory punching Hitler = awesome.

They can still show more stuff with River if they want, since she has at least 3 incarnations prior to Alex Kingston (she says last time she reincarnated into a toddler, who then presumably was who reincarnated into Mels at the end of Day of the Moon, and then she has her original body). So they can go back and show stuff with other actresses theoretically.

Also: saying she loses future regenerations changes absolutely nothing. We already know she dies as Alex Kingston in Forest of the Dead, so losing more regens is irrelevant from our perspective (and the Doctor's).

Things I didn't like:

1. Rory and Amy have a best friend we've never seen? Or is it a time thing where she wasn't actually their childhood friend until just before she appeared and then she went back and grew up with them. Also why did she show up with a gun and fly them to 1936? I'm still confused about that.

2. River is written like even more of a smug self righteous jerk in this episode than she usually is. Also I thought maybe young pre-Alex Kingston River would be better, but she's even worse. I now realize its not Alex Kingston I dislike, but just the way the character is written (Moffat's fault I guess).

[Joopac_Badur]

1. Rory and Amy have a best friend we've never seen? Or is it a time thing where she wasn't actually their childhood friend until just before she appeared and then she went back and grew up with them. Also why did she show up with a gun and fly them to 1936? I'm still confused about that.

River as Mels had met the Doctor prior to this episode. We know this because when she's dying right before her regeneration, she tells the Doctor, "You said we were going to get married ... when I was younger" (or something like that). So presumably, she met the Doctor and found out who her parents are (Rory and Amy), found them during their youth, realized that young Amy knew the Doctor, and figured the best way to get to the Doctor again would be to just hang around with her parents long enough. After all, she probably found out from the Doctor that he had traveled with her parents for awhile. It was only a matter of ... time.

She showed up with the gun becuase, 1) She needed a way to make sure the Doctor took her away in the TARDIS. She was, after all, being pursued by cops. B) It would be one way that she could kill the Doctor once she had a good opportunity. 3) If you suddenly have a time machine, one of the first things you might think to do is go back in time and kill Hitler, so why not 1936?

[Agrajag]

I thought the marriage thing was just a reference to earlier in the show? There was some line about marriage when they first meet in the episode I think.

[Joopac_Badur]

The Doctor wondered why, if Mels is Amy and Rory's best friend, she wasn't at their wedding. He makes the point that he danced with everyone there, and she was not one of them. Mels then says that she doesn't do weddings.

More importantly, there is now a theory that between the Doctor arguing with the computer interface (Fish fingers!) and him showing up in the tux, he actually went back in time and did time-whimey things, perhaps even going back to the wedding. Moffat's done this sort of thing before, specifically in "Flesh and Stone," and it would fit with the already convoluted time line from the beginning with 200+ year old Doctor getting shot and then sending his younger self to do dirty work.

[Joopac_Badur]

Okay, correction, the wedding thing Mels says before regenerating was something along the lines of, "When I was younger, I dreamed about marrying you," so it's likely she only met the Doctor once when she was very young. Specifically, in the little girl regeneration seen in the first two episodes of the Series. We know this because the photos she has in her room show her with Amy, so at some point the Doctor rescues her ... only for her to be kidnapped again.

NIGHT TERRORS

A nice, creepy, stand-alone episode. Reminded me of the only Moffat days when RTD was in charge. Some brief thoughts

*One thing I like about Eleven is how child like he is. This is always seen best when he is interacting with children.

*I honestly don't know who gets the best lines, Rory or the Doctor.

*The doll monsters reminded me of "The Empty Child" and "The Doctor Dances" episodes. In fact, when they first transformed the landlord into a doll, my mind instantly went: "Are you my dolly?"

*For once, the love-saves-the-day ending made sense.

*While I do enjoy the arc of this series (the Doctor being murdered by River Song), it's not as riveting as the previous one with the cracks in the universe. I believe it's because Moffat hasn't really hyped it up as much. With practically each episode last series, the threat and menace of the cracks became more and more prevalent. Aside from learning that River is (probably) who is in the astronaut suit, we really don't know a lot of what's going on with this arc. Kind of a let down. I'm really hoping we get more into that story soon.

[kleptoman]

Is it me, or does anyone else think Rory and Amy should be freaking out more about loosing their child and missing out on it's childhood? I know that they were there, but they kind of stole their daughter. They ended up having her as a friend, but does that compare? Shouldn't they at least be talking about her? Or try to mess around with time so they have their baby?

[Agrajag]

Yep they should definitely be trying to do all those things. Or at the very least they should be trying to having another baby so they can get it right the second go round.

[Joopac_Badur]

I read on Bleeding Cool that originally, "Night Terrors" was supposed to air during the first half of the series, but they switched the air dates around at the last minute, which would explain why Rory and Amy don't seem too concerned about Melody/River.

[Agrajag]

Yeah there's also an "in the flesh" line would be sort of be amusingly foreshadowing later episodes if it came in the first half of the season.